Will Kidnappers Kill Christian Activists in Iraq?

Our Holy Spirit answers:

Dear ones, these activists chose their own death when they made the decision to wage their brand of war against the Iraq Rebuilding. Their kind of activism is not the way to bring about peace in your world. To teach peace to your world, they would have had to dwell in the experience inner peace. These activists have been at war in their own minds, and thereby teach war to the world. They call themselves Christians, but they have not been teaching My Peace.

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Reni said...

so do the US soldiers deserve to die too even if just for joining the military? You could theologically argue that they deserve to die even more so for "those who live by the sword, die by the sword."

These four men are dedicated to pacifism and peace. Jesus rebuked the sword in his final hours; he even healed the ear of a guard, which would have been considered an "enemy". These men are truly following the call of Christ and offering love and compassion for a nation brutalized by violence and oppression for decades. It boggles my mind that you feel they are somehow getting what they deserve, because they don't follow your political agenda.

Matthew 26:52 "Put your sword back in its place," Jesus said to him, "for all who draw the sword will die by the sword. 53 Do you think I cannot call on my Father, and he will at once put at my disposal more than twelve legions of angels? 54 But how then would the Scriptures be fulfilled that say it must happen in this way?"

55 At that time Jesus said to the crowd, "Am I leading a rebellion, that you have come out with swords and clubs to capture me? Every day I sat in the temple courts teaching, and you did not arrest me. 56 But this has all taken place that the writings of the prophets might be fulfilled." Then all the disciples deserted him and fled.Don't you find it tricky that your politics and your religion don't equal up?

A Christian Prophet said...

Hi Reni!

I don't see that it has anything to do with politics. Jesus is saying these dear ones did not choose peace inside themselves, therefore they were not teaching peace to the world.

Jesus is teaching that it doesn't do any good to SAY you are dedicated to peace. You have to choose total peace inside yourself, because you teach what you are.

Reni said...

How on earth do you know these men's hearts? You are not God, nor are you those men. Only they and God know what peace they hold within.

They went to Iraq to work for peace; to create dialogue and advocate for the poor and the suffering. The way I see it, they ARE teaching peace. They have risked their lives and may pay the price with their lives in teaching and working for peace.

A Christian Prophet said...

Hi Reni!

Jesus DOES know the hearts of all. Jesus also knows what is necessary to create true peace over the entire earth. When Jesus says these dear ones, who obviously had good intentions, were really creating only chaos, I believe Him, since I personally wouldn't have any way of knowing, as you point out.

Again, I know nothing, but I suspect what you call pacifism is not what Jesus would call pacifism. Maybe a message will come through on pacifism.

It does seem that Jesus is far above politics. His messages sometimes sound a little liberal, sometimes a little conservative, and often very different than liberal or conservative, in fact very different than one hears on earth. But Jesus has said he will use all political parties if they will allow Him.

As for you, Reni, you have a very beautiful heart. Even I can see that and, as you imply, I'm not even seeing everything.

Reni said...

You are not Jesus.....you are a man. Therefore, you cannot possibly know what is in these mens hearts. That is my point.

And almost everything of which you speak on your blog is political.....and you cloak it by claiming to be the voice of the Holy Spirit......

I am not sure how you create peace within chaos.....but carrying arms and being threatening isn't the way, which is the way of the US military and the current administration. These men were unarmed, walking in peace and acting for peace. I am sorry you do not see it that way.

A Christian Prophet said...

Hi Reni!

Thank you for being in touch with your deep desire to live in a totally peaceful world. That is my desire also, so we are allies. I guess the question is how does a world of total peace get created.

Thank you also for not pulling out your troops (speaking metaphorically) when the communication is not going smoothly.

You are absolutely correct. I am a man. Like you, I am human and therefore can only see surface appearances and have no way to judge what is really going on. Like you, I have no idea what is in the minds of activists. Like you, I have no idea what anything is really for.

I love these messages from Jesus because they give me glimpses into a vastly expanded viewpoint far beyond any viewpoint I could ever see. They hint at solutions and conclusions I never could have come up with using my limited human perception.

If Jesus says something that seems to go against one of my cherished beliefs, I don't argue that my little human perception knows more than his heavenly viewpoint. I simply say something like, "Oops! I guess I've got more to learn."